Comments for Duped Dads http://www.duped-dads.com Fighting paternity fraud... Sat, 27 Feb 2010 23:29:56 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 Comment on Reducing your child support payments by Karen Smith http://www.duped-dads.com/2009/01/13/reducing-your-child-support-payments/comment-page-1/#comment-390 Karen Smith Sat, 27 Feb 2010 23:29:56 +0000 http://www.duped-dads.com/?p=61#comment-390 I can't believe what im reading here. I was with my partner for 5 and an half years and we both planned our child and when we split up there was no question that he was goin to support his child in every way. This website is what gives alot of absent fathers a bad name. There are so many fathers who want to support there children and be there, not find a way to get out of the obligation from they lay down with the mother and got pregnant. We can't do it on our own!!!!! There are mothers out there that do use the fathers money for themselves and I do not agree with but tarring all mothers with the same brush is disgusting!! What about the mothers out there who have walked away and left the fathers bringing up the children would you all have a different opinion then! I can’t believe what im reading here. I was with my partner for 5 and an half years and we both planned our child and when we split up there was no question that he was goin to support his child in every way.
This website is what gives alot of absent fathers a bad name. There are so many fathers who want to support there children and be there, not find a way to get out of the obligation from they lay down with the mother and got pregnant. We can’t do it on our own!!!!!
There are mothers out there that do use the fathers money for themselves and I do not agree with but tarring all mothers with the same brush is disgusting!!
What about the mothers out there who have walked away and left the fathers bringing up the children would you all have a different opinion then!

]]> Comment on Reducing your child support payments by jo http://www.duped-dads.com/2009/01/13/reducing-your-child-support-payments/comment-page-1/#comment-389 jo Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:41:21 +0000 http://www.duped-dads.com/?p=61#comment-389 DADS WHO USE THE SYSTEM AND DON'T PAY FOR THEIR KIDS TO SCORE POINTS SHOULD BE ASHAMED. YOUR KIDS YOUR RESPONSIBILTY!! MY EX DE FRAUDS THE TAX SYSTEM TO GET OUT OF PAYING FOR HIS 3 CHILDREN AND NEVER BUYS THEM A THING. HAS SEVERAL HOLIDAYS A YEAR (WITHOUT HIS KIDS) HAS 3 CARS AND A LARGE PROPErTY IN HALF AN ACRE. HIDES ALL HIS CASH LIKE A DIRTY CRIMINAL! HE HAS PROB HAD HIS RECENT TAX RETURN AND THIS IS NO DOUBT WHY HE IS REDUCING CONTACT WITH THEM ALSO, WAS ONLY HAVING THEM TO KEEP HIS PAYMENTS LOW. POOR KIDS ARE LOSING OUT BIG TIME. NOT ALL US MUMS ARE TRYING TO TAKE YOU FOR EVERY PENNY. KIDS ONLY ONES TO LOSE OUT IN ALL OF THIS, CRYING, WETTING THE BED, MISSING OUT ON TRIPS, TOYS ETC ETC ETC. WE WHERE BARELY MANAGING BEFORE......KIDS ARE EXPENSIVE! WELL DONE TO THE MANY DADS WHO CARE FOR THEIR KIDS, EXCEPT RESPONSIBILTY AND PAY THEIR WAY.. THE REST OF YOU WANT TO THINK ON ABOUT THE BATTLE ZONE YOU CREATE, DON'T KNOW HOW YOU SLEEP AT NIGHT!!!!! AS FOR KRIS...KIDS NOT A JOINT DECISION? GOD WHAT A CHARMER! DADS WHO USE THE SYSTEM AND DON’T PAY FOR THEIR KIDS TO SCORE POINTS SHOULD BE ASHAMED. YOUR KIDS YOUR RESPONSIBILTY!! MY EX
DE FRAUDS THE TAX SYSTEM TO GET OUT OF PAYING FOR HIS 3 CHILDREN AND NEVER BUYS THEM A THING. HAS SEVERAL HOLIDAYS A YEAR (WITHOUT HIS KIDS) HAS 3 CARS AND A LARGE PROPErTY IN HALF AN ACRE. HIDES ALL HIS CASH LIKE A DIRTY CRIMINAL! HE HAS PROB HAD HIS RECENT TAX RETURN AND THIS IS NO DOUBT WHY HE IS REDUCING CONTACT WITH THEM ALSO, WAS ONLY HAVING THEM TO KEEP HIS PAYMENTS LOW. POOR KIDS ARE LOSING OUT BIG TIME. NOT ALL US MUMS ARE TRYING TO TAKE YOU FOR EVERY PENNY. KIDS ONLY ONES TO LOSE OUT IN ALL OF THIS, CRYING, WETTING THE BED, MISSING OUT ON TRIPS, TOYS ETC ETC ETC. WE WHERE BARELY MANAGING BEFORE……KIDS ARE EXPENSIVE!
WELL DONE TO THE MANY DADS WHO CARE FOR THEIR KIDS, EXCEPT RESPONSIBILTY AND PAY THEIR WAY..
THE REST OF YOU WANT TO THINK ON ABOUT THE BATTLE ZONE YOU CREATE, DON’T KNOW HOW YOU SLEEP AT NIGHT!!!!!
AS FOR KRIS…KIDS NOT A JOINT DECISION? GOD WHAT A CHARMER!

]]> Comment on Don’t put your name on the birth certificate by Carnell Smith PfV http://www.duped-dads.com/2008/12/22/dont-put-your-name-on-the-birth-certificate/comment-page-1/#comment-388 Carnell Smith PfV Thu, 11 Feb 2010 02:48:27 +0000 http://www.duped-dads.com/?p=50#comment-388 Excellent advice for addressing one of the four ways to become a victim of paternity fraud. Well, almost. The court can make a decision for a default judgment to declare a man or teenager as the father. Even if he does not sign the birth certificate or is unaware of the court date to appear. This is an area that reeks with due process violations where personal service is NOT required to obtain a monetary judgment. Please warn our military men and teenage sons. http://www.paternityfraud.com/forum Excellent advice for addressing one of the four ways to become a victim of paternity fraud.

Well, almost. The court can make a decision for a default judgment to declare a man or teenager as the father. Even if he does not sign the birth certificate or is unaware of the court date to appear.

This is an area that reeks with due process violations where personal service is NOT required to obtain a monetary judgment.

Please warn our military men and teenage sons.
http://www.paternityfraud.com/forum

]]> Comment on Reducing your child support payments by sara http://www.duped-dads.com/2009/01/13/reducing-your-child-support-payments/comment-page-1/#comment-387 sara Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:39:26 +0000 http://www.duped-dads.com/?p=61#comment-387 Kris - Firstly, it WAS a joint decision to have children in my case and many other womens cases. Under the angle you are coming from maybe each woman should sign a Pre-nup stating that it is a joint decision and that an account should be set up to have monies deposited during the relationship in the event of a split later on? I can only assume from your response that you either have a bitch of an ex partner or are single. If it was MY choice to have children why is my husbands name on their birth certificates, as if it were not he would have no obligation to pay any maintenance? I also think that the majority of men in this situation would be horrified by your comments. They take full responsibilty for the creation and emotional and financial support of their kids. Your comments must not only enrage those like me: who has not pursued my ex for money at all as the CSA have done that, but the millions of male ex partners and single Dads who are proud of being a father. Had the shoe been on the other foot and I had been the one working and building up a career I would happily be giving my ex partner money for MY children. But if you follow your logic, men can just walk away from their kids as it wasnt their fault their partner got pregnant!!! I am not talking about a one night stand, but an 18 year relationship where we BOTH decided to become parents, and in fact with our youngest it was my husband who was more keen than I and made promises he did not keep. Yes, I should have been more careful in my choice of husband, but even though my ex is a drunk, he contacted the CSA and claimed his income to them, I did not. I am lucky that I have my 3 daughters, but frankly a sperm donor would have been an easier option. Men like you make me sick. I am sure if you have children, and as you are on this forum I can only assume you do, that they would delighted to see that its not your fault they exist!!! What happend? Trip and fall in a darkened bedroom??? One thing you did say that was correct is that morally I have no right to my Ex's money...Correct. But HIS children do. If I have enraged yo because I think it is right that the non resident parent (father or mother) pays some money for the upbringing of their children and am disgusted by people looking for ways to pay less, then tough! Kris – Firstly, it WAS a joint decision to have children in my case and many other womens cases. Under the angle you are coming from maybe each woman should sign a Pre-nup stating that it is a joint decision and that an account should be set up to have monies deposited during the relationship in the event of a split later on?

I can only assume from your response that you either have a bitch of an ex partner or are single. If it was MY choice to have children why is my husbands name on their birth certificates, as if it were not he would have no obligation to pay any maintenance?

I also think that the majority of men in this situation would be horrified by your comments. They take full responsibilty for the creation and emotional and financial support of their kids. Your comments must not only enrage those like me: who has not pursued my ex for money at all as the CSA have done that, but the millions of male ex partners and single Dads who are proud of being a father.

Had the shoe been on the other foot and I had been the one working and building up a career I would happily be giving my ex partner money for MY children. But if you follow your logic, men can just walk away from their kids as it wasnt their fault their partner got pregnant!!! I am not talking about a one night stand, but an 18 year relationship where we BOTH decided to become parents, and in fact with our youngest it was my husband who was more keen than I and made promises he did not keep.

Yes, I should have been more careful in my choice of husband, but even though my ex is a drunk, he contacted the CSA and claimed his income to them, I did not.

I am lucky that I have my 3 daughters, but frankly a sperm donor would have been an easier option. Men like you make me sick. I am sure if you have children, and as you are on this forum I can only assume you do, that they would delighted to see that its not your fault they exist!!! What happend? Trip and fall in a darkened bedroom???

One thing you did say that was correct is that morally I have no right to my Ex’s money…Correct. But HIS children do.

If I have enraged yo because I think it is right that the non resident parent (father or mother) pays some money for the upbringing of their children and am disgusted by people looking for ways to pay less, then tough!

]]> Comment on Reducing your child support payments by Gemma http://www.duped-dads.com/2009/01/13/reducing-your-child-support-payments/comment-page-1/#comment-386 Gemma Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:34:26 +0000 http://www.duped-dads.com/?p=61#comment-386 The CSA are claiming my partner has never paid a penny for his son, when he has! He paid £2000 out of our savings and they are claiming they never received this payment in June 08 despite saying at the time they did. He then paid £90 a month which CSA say they never received, then he got made redundant and CSA took £5 a week from his benefits and they are claiming they never received this too. His son lives over 400 miles away and he pays £60 in fuel to pick him up and another £60 to take him back but the CSA don't want to know and he does this every half term plus tube fares. He then started working again and the CSA did not take into account the distance from his home to where he worked even though it was over 30 miles every day. They said this only applies to how a 'crow flies' BOLLOCKS! Anyway they started taking money out of his wages and this left him with less than £600 to live with a £400 rent to pay. He rang them up and said he could not live but they didn't care they said he owed £2000 back money and he said he paid that along with £90 a month for a year until he got made redunant but they said they would send him a statement of what he had paid and nothing was on it! We are now in the process of going through old bank statements to prove payments. He got made redundant again recently and daren't work now as he knows he cannot live as the CSA just sting him. When his son visits he more than provides for him but they do not take this into account. We are at a loss over what to do??? The CSA are claiming my partner has never paid a penny for his son, when he has! He paid £2000 out of our savings and they are claiming they never received this payment in June 08 despite saying at the time they did. He then paid £90 a month which CSA say they never received, then he got made redundant and CSA took £5 a week from his benefits and they are claiming they never received this too.

His son lives over 400 miles away and he pays £60 in fuel to pick him up and another £60 to take him back but the CSA don’t want to know and he does this every half term plus tube fares. He then started working again and the CSA did not take into account the distance from his home to where he worked even though it was over 30 miles every day. They said this only applies to how a ‘crow flies’ BOLLOCKS! Anyway they started taking money out of his wages and this left him with less than £600 to live with a £400 rent to pay.

He rang them up and said he could not live but they didn’t care they said he owed £2000 back money and he said he paid that along with £90 a month for a year until he got made redunant but they said they would send him a statement of what he had paid and nothing was on it! We are now in the process of going through old bank statements to prove payments.

He got made redundant again recently and daren’t work now as he knows he cannot live as the CSA just sting him. When his son visits he more than provides for him but they do not take this into account. We are at a loss over what to do???

]]> Comment on Reducing your child support payments by Kris http://www.duped-dads.com/2009/01/13/reducing-your-child-support-payments/comment-page-1/#comment-385 Kris Fri, 05 Feb 2010 16:20:02 +0000 http://www.duped-dads.com/?p=61#comment-385 Sara - You want to talk about making people sick? People like you do - you have NO RIGHT morally or logically to ANY of your ex's money - despite what the government/CSA say. Whilst the current legislation is at odds with basic logic and moral principles, people will always do there best to avoid paying - and I for one will agree with them. The choice to have a child was never joint between you and your husband. The person who has ultimate choice and therefore ultimate responsibility is the mother. The father cannot "choose" to have the pregnancy terminated for example. You made a bad decision in having children with that man - but thats life. Tough luck. Live with it and make better decisions in the future. As for starting at the bottom with your career, how the heck is that your ex's fault. YOU chose to have children. At any point you could have said no - but you did not. That is the consequence of having children (logically). On the plus side, you do have 3 daughters which i'm sure you love and care for but damn woman, take responsibility for your own actions and stop trying to blame others - it was/is/has always been YOUR choice! Sara – You want to talk about making people sick? People like you do – you have NO RIGHT morally or logically to ANY of your ex’s money – despite what the government/CSA say. Whilst the current legislation is at odds with basic logic and moral principles, people will always do there best to avoid paying – and I for one will agree with them.

The choice to have a child was never joint between you and your husband. The person who has ultimate choice and therefore ultimate responsibility is the mother. The father cannot “choose” to have the pregnancy terminated for example. You made a bad decision in having children with that man – but thats life. Tough luck. Live with it and make better decisions in the future.

As for starting at the bottom with your career, how the heck is that your ex’s fault. YOU chose to have children. At any point you could have said no – but you did not. That is the consequence of having children (logically).

On the plus side, you do have 3 daughters which i’m sure you love and care for but damn woman, take responsibility for your own actions and stop trying to blame others – it was/is/has always been YOUR choice!

]]> Comment on Reducing your child support payments by sara http://www.duped-dads.com/2009/01/13/reducing-your-child-support-payments/comment-page-1/#comment-384 sara Thu, 04 Feb 2010 13:16:02 +0000 http://www.duped-dads.com/?p=61#comment-384 This whole conversation makes me sick! These are your children you are defrauding NOT your ex partners. I gave up my wonderful career as a nurse to be a full time Mum 12 years ago. This was a joint decusion by me and my husband. Not only does he only pay me £10 a week for his 3 daughters but because he is an alcoholic the children wont see him. I am mother and father to my kids and now have to start my career at the bottom to feed them. How is this morally right?? This whole conversation makes me sick! These are your children you are defrauding NOT your ex partners. I gave up my wonderful career as a nurse to be a full time Mum 12 years ago. This was a joint decusion by me and my husband. Not only does he only pay me £10 a week for his 3 daughters but because he is an alcoholic the children wont see him. I am mother and father to my kids and now have to start my career at the bottom to feed them. How is this morally right??

]]> Comment on Reducing your child support payments by Ian X http://www.duped-dads.com/2009/01/13/reducing-your-child-support-payments/comment-page-1/#comment-383 Ian X Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:33:25 +0000 http://www.duped-dads.com/?p=61#comment-383 Rick, It depends how much you pay into a pension, the CSA calculate your payments based on your NET income, so gross income minus NI, Tax and pension contributions. You will be better off in the long run paying maximum into a pension but could end up cutting yourself really tight financially so it's about finding a happy medium. Also for info to the group i have been told that if i opt into the company car scheme at work i will reduce my payments to the CSA as my tax code will increase therefore taking more tax off me. Obviously my NET income will be lower but i will not be paying for fuel, insurance, wear and tear, repairs, etc so could end up better in the long run. Does anybody else know more about this before i take up the option? Rick,

It depends how much you pay into a pension, the CSA calculate your payments based on your NET income, so gross income minus NI, Tax and pension contributions. You will be better off in the long run paying maximum into a pension but could end up cutting yourself really tight financially so it’s about finding a happy medium.

Also for info to the group i have been told that if i opt into the company car scheme at work i will reduce my payments to the CSA as my tax code will increase therefore taking more tax off me. Obviously my NET income will be lower but i will not be paying for fuel, insurance, wear and tear, repairs, etc so could end up better in the long run. Does anybody else know more about this before i take up the option?

]]> Comment on Reducing your child support payments by Rick http://www.duped-dads.com/2009/01/13/reducing-your-child-support-payments/comment-page-1/#comment-382 Rick Sun, 17 Jan 2010 15:35:45 +0000 http://www.duped-dads.com/?p=61#comment-382 How much £ difference would thier be if I were to take out a 'new pension' when CSA are taking out an assesment? how would the CSA calculate you net income? No Pension curently & 48yrs old ... doh! How much £ difference would thier be if I were to take out a ‘new pension’ when CSA are taking out an assesment? how would the CSA calculate you net income? No Pension curently & 48yrs old … doh!

]]> Comment on Don’t put your name on the birth certificate by lee http://www.duped-dads.com/2008/12/22/dont-put-your-name-on-the-birth-certificate/comment-page-1/#comment-381 lee Fri, 15 Jan 2010 23:17:08 +0000 http://www.duped-dads.com/?p=50#comment-381 for sure funny. my boyfriend said he only married the giant for the kid. Act of desperation. said he felt sorry for him? is he feeding me bs? and there relationship didnt mean anything. i feel like she used him and ran off took his car got it repossed and is got with a new man that she is with now and has a 2 yr old with. and the son she abandend is here with us. she used him! for sure funny. my boyfriend said he only married the giant for the kid. Act of desperation. said he felt sorry for him? is he feeding me bs? and there relationship didnt mean anything. i feel like she used him and ran off took his car got it repossed and is got with a new man that she is with now and has a 2 yr old with. and the son she abandend is here with us. she used him!

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